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Hello everyone, this is Alex Morozov. Some reflections today from the last couple of weeks on Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s inner circle, his trusted advisors. I had the chance to meet with three of them, Pierre Korry, Calley Means, and Robert Malone. And I have some reflections on two others, Ben Edwards and Richard Bartlett. As you recall, the first measles death was reported in late February. A child developed respiratory failure.
after being diagnosed with measles, required mechanical ventilation in the intensive care unit, and passed away, the first measles death in the US in over a decade. And just to note, pneumonia is the most common cause of death in young children with measles. Dr. Pierre Kory is an ICU physician, pulmonologist, accused of COVID misinformation, but Kennedy
A few months ago, called him a brave dissident doctor.
So, got a hold of the patient's medical records and concluded that this child "unequivocally did not die of measles". This was shared at multiple public appearances by Kory and others at Children's Health Defense.
as well as Edwards and Bartlett. They all called for the mainstream media to retract their stories attributing the death to measles.
Even though the characterization offered by Kory was described by the hospital as misleading and inaccurate. And of course the hospital is not able to release the details.
I saw Dr. Kory at an event a couple of weeks ago called Summit for Truth in Rochester, New York. And I told him that I had just gotten back from West Texas and asked him how he could so unequivocally exclude the contribution of measles to the patient's death. And then we had a brief exchange. Let's listen.
So basically, as you heard after some back and forth, he ran out of arguments. So he said, you want to know the real story in this case? Several of us believe that they weaponized this measles virus on purpose. And she got sicker from this measles probably because they monkeyed with the virus.
So this for me brings up several questions. First of all, does quite a few of us include Secretary Kennedy? if there's a concern that the virus was weaponized, why not warn the public? What is known about this weaponized virus? Is it being studied by the CDC? Has it been sequenced? What is the impact on viral antigens?
Are the currently FDA approved MMR vaccines expected to have protective activity against it? What are the clinical characteristics of this epidemic in distinction to others? And did they see some evidence that this epidemic is more might be the basis for this concern that the virus would be weaponized. And was this concern based on the overall population data or just in the review of this one fatal case?
Can whatever data that led to this concern be shared with the public? And is population data being carefully collected in this epidemic? How does that work when patients are being actively discouraged from seeking mainstream medical care? And that probably means that many patients remain undiagnosed. Will the HHS make a statement about that
fatal case, given the confusing messages. First they announced that this was not measles related and all along they're worried that this was weaponized and that's why the girl got so sick from it. Were the parents of the deceased child informed of this concern that we may be dealing with weaponized measles? How about the Mennonite community as a whole, the broader West Texas community and other states? This information
will clearly be a factor in the decisions that the public is making about whether to seek medical care, whether to get vaccinated, and conversely delaying this disclosure could cause harm by preventing these decisions being made with the full available information. And how is that in line with
the stated priorities of Secretary Kennedy for radical transparency?
So these will be all my questions and
this is important and I wanted to share this quickly in this video because it's clear that Kennedy's colleagues and advisors are saying one thing publicly, basically, don't worry, these deaths have nothing to do with measles.
measles is not a big deal", but secretly they're worried that these children are getting sicker and that this virus is unusual and potentially weaponized.
and they're continuing to do this! Just
a couple of days ago, there was another measles death. And again, Kory came out on CHDTV and again said that the second child also did not die from measles.
And how is that now a trustworthy statement? It took me about two minutes to get him to tell me the real story. So what's the real story with the second case, Dr. Kory, I wonder. So then a few days later, I had a chance to ask Calley Means these questions. He's of course a former lobbyist without any science or medical background.
His claim to fame is that he's the one who introduced Trump and Kennedy. So he's the mastermind behind this alliance. And he was recently appointed as a special government employee at the Department of Health and Human Services.
At the Politico Health Summit event last week, he was interviewed by Dasha Burns, Politico's White House bureau chief. She asked him, why thelay offs at the HHS? And means got so agitated, "They're bureaucrats!" His knuckles were white and I thought he was getting ready to do a karate move on Burns. You can see that in the video. But she pushed back, they're not bureaucrats, they're scientists. So he said,
those scientists fundamentally have overseen a record of utter failure. There some laughter and someone yelled, not true!
See if you can guess who it was. Okay, I'll tell you. It was me. He looked at me and tried to engage me in a debate. it's not true. so I wanna know what metrics you guys are... But then he realized that he's not supposed to do that. I don't have a microphone. He's not supposed to talk to the audience. So he turned to Burns and continued with her.
And by the way, what he said to use his terminology is demonstrably wrong. And in fact, it reminds me of this.
of this saying by James Carville, Bill Clinton's political advisor, who said that "It's the economy, stupid!" Well, here I would say "It's the disparities, stupid!"
He talked about life expectancy.
during COVID, there were tremendous life expectancy disparities by race and ethnicity. So in whites, life expectancy from 2019 to 2021 dropped by about two and a half years, which is of course very significant.
But in blacks, it dropped by four years. And in American Indian and Alaska Natives, in our indigenous populations, it dropped by...
more than 5 years.
And a new report recently from the Bloomberg American Health Initiative compared the life expectancy in the US versus in the UK. And indeed in the US, life expectancy is 2.7 years lower. So why is that? What are the causes of this? Well, cardiovascular disease is one and that's where we have...
really a revolutionary approach with the GLP-1 agonists that improve survival and prevent cardiovascular complications. Yet Trump's administration has refused to reimburse these treatments. Overdose deaths is another contributor and we'll see what the new administration will do about those. Gun related deaths. The third reason
for the disparities with the UK. In the UK in 2023, there were 90 individuals who died from firearm-related causes compared to 45,000 in the US. So after the interview, I saw Means in the back of the auditorium, so I came up to him and asked him a couple of questions and then I asked him,
to comment on what Kory told me that the measles apparently there was a concern that it was weaponized, but he didn't answer and so I sent him the same questions that I just mentioned by email and needless to say he didn't respond Kennedy was supposed to come to the Senate this week to provide an update to the senators.
And I passed these questions to a senator as well to ask Kennedy, but the hearing got postponed, unfortunately, indefinitely.
Robert Malone. So you may have heard of him as a source of misinformation during COVID. He was debunked five times by factcheck.org during that period. But now when Kennedy had to decide what to do about bird flu, he called Malone. And this was discussed at the annual meeting of the Independent
Medicine Alliance last weekend that I attended. And it was discussed at length as an example of how helpful the IMA was to and is to Kennedy. At his request, Malone and others prepared a briefing, talking points, policy proposal, what to do about bird flu.
And they proudly said that he accomplished exactly what they suggested.
And by the way, an interesting fact, if you think that MAHA is a US only thing, Malone is overseeing a group of 30 odd fellows of the IMA in 15 different countries and he travels the world. So I asked him which country he thinks would become MAHA next. And he said, probably Italy and Japan. And in fact,
three days ago, as I'll talk about in a second, Ben Edwards and Richard Bartlett were on a podcast.
And Bartlett said that he was just interviewed by a Japanese newspaper.
So now it makes sense why a Japanese newspaper is reaching out to him.
So, that's where I will finish with Edwards and Bartlett. Ben Edwards.
is the doctor praised by Kennedy for achieving "almost miraculous and instantaneous recoveries" from measles.
His key principle that he highlights on the website for his clinic is that germs and genes are not the cause of disease anymore than flies cause garbage.
Alex Morozov (11:29)
So I thought, what an odd point of view, but it's not the only odd observation made by Edwards. I listened to his podcast, which by the way, his guests are just a parade of anti-vaxxers like Andrew Wakefield, Barbara Lowe Fisher and others. But in between he ventures into quantum physics to explain that
atoms are mostly empty space, even steel, he says. And that empty space vibrates when you're in a bad mood causing disease. And this really worries me coming from a doctor, not because of how bizarre this theory is, because scientifically I cannot think of what type of evidence, what type of a research observation would support this hypothesis.
And that always needs to be the first question in medicine because evidence is what supports our beliefs and we need to always be skeptical. And that is at the core of the practice of medicine. And in fact, Dr. Katherine Wells, Lubbock's Director of Public Health told me that
Edwards is not considered to be a member of the medical community in in Lubbock. He's out there by himself doing this integrative medicine. She said we have many excellent doctors. We have a medical school in in Lubbock. Edwards is also famous now for promoting self medication with cod liver oil and vitamin A. And in fact, now we're seeing children hospitalized for vitamin A toxicity.
Oddly, Edwards offered reassurance on one of his podcasts.
Alex Morozov (12:57)
He says, from a toxicity standpoint, it's very, very difficult, next to almost impossible to get toxic on vitamin A from a food source. There's evidence in the literature, the Merck Manual talks about an Arctic explorer who ate a polar bear liver and they estimated over a million international units of vitamin A.
he started to experience some toxicity. So he stopped eating that and immediately the symptoms went away. I would be reassured if I heard that from a doctor. But sadly, this anecdote that Edward cites is in the adult paragraph that describes adults in that section on vitamin A toxicity in the Merck manual. Under children,
they cite 300,000 units, which actually corresponds to only 23 tablespoons of cod liver oil and it can accumulate. So doesn't have to be all taken at once to develop toxicity. And by the way, really? the explorer stopped eating liver and instantly the symptoms went away? How is that plausible for a vitamin that accumulates? And that is not
part of the story in the Merck manual, that is an embellishment that Edwards added for extra reassurance. And so again, as in this vibrating space story, just the logic of medical evidence here is broken.
So finally Bartlett, I probably will do a separate episode on him at some point, but just to say he was on You're the Cure three days ago and him and Edwards were bashing vaccines. Kind of reminds me of Jay Leno's classic skit, economy is so bad. How bad is it?
vaccines are so bad, how bad are they? And so Richard Bartlett says, there's polyethylene glycol that is added on purpose to the COVID shots. And if you look at the OSHA occupational safety and health,
safety data sheet, it says not for human or vete rinary use, for research purposes only. And that is actually polyethylene glycol that is antifreeze in your car. And I have to say, I don't typically do fact checking because that just is such an enormous task and there are other great sources of information.
and scientists out there who are doing that. But here I just couldn't help myself. So first of all, he clearly looked at the wrong safety data sheet. And for those of us who worked in the lab, we know the same compound can exist in multiple forms, multiple quality standards. So in the lab, if you go into any research lab, you may find salt sitting on the shelf, sodium chloride.
That will say research use only not for human consumption. The same glucose will be there, sugar, et cetera.
Alex Morozov (15:39)
So whether something is research use only or not is a property of this particular batch, this particular preparation, not something...
that can be said about that chemical in general. And the toxic antifreeze that we're all worried about and thinking of is ethylene glycol, not polyethylene glycol.
Alex Morozov (16:00)
So needless to say, this really worries me. The fact that these are the people Kennedy surrounds himself with, goes for advice, actually follows their advice. In contrast, we have in the US 2400 members of the National Academy of Medicine. We have 10,000 board certified infectious disease physicians. We have
Hundreds, according to AI, hundreds of researchers studying measles full time.
We don't have any evidence that Kennedy has reached out to any of those people.
This does not bode well for research, for science, for medicine in our country and globally, and most importantly, for our health and wellbeing of the people, all of us around the world.
Have a great weekend.
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